In Episode 22 of The Incredible Machines Podcast, hosts Jon Oliff and Luke Holden are joined by Thobani Ndlovu, an architect, TEDx curator, and author of Leading Through the Mirror.
This episode is a journey through personal transformation, creativity, and the courage to follow curiosity. Thobani opens up about growing up in a small town in KZN, stumbling into architecture by accident, and discovering public speaking while serving meals to the homeless. From there, he built TEDx Durban, not to take the stage, but to give it to others.
This conversation explores what it means to challenge labels, create spaces that shape lives, and lead from within. Whether you're a designer, speaker, or leader, Thobani's story is a reminder that you don't need to fit in a box; you can build your own.
Key Highlights from Episode 22
1. The Power of Curiosity
As a young man, Thobani was curious about the world but didn’t yet have the courage to explore it. That changed when a missed internship led him into an architecture office by chance. That spark of curiosity changed his life.
“There’s power in curiosity, it’s how you learn who you are and how you relate to the world around you.”
2. Building Platforms Bigger Than Yourself
Thobani initially pursued a TEDx license so he could give a talk. But when he discovered license holders can’t speak, he stayed anyway and built a powerful platform that’s helped countless others find their voice.
“Great things begin with conversations, so do wars. That’s the power of words.”
3. Redefining Identity Beyond Labels
From student architect to sports journalist, from introvert to public speaker, Thobani challenges the idea that we must fit into fixed identities.
“I hate boxes. I’ve seen that so many things I thought I couldn’t do, I actually can.”
4. People Over Profits in Architecture & Life
As both an architect and a developer, Thobani balances creativity with commerce but never forgets the human experience at the heart of every space.
“How people experience a space affects their emotional and mental well-being. That’s a big responsibility.”
4. From the Streets to the Stage
Volunteering at a feeding scheme taught Thobani empathy, public speaking, and the truth about leadership: before you can lead others, you must first learn to lead yourself.
Quote
“We suffer more in imagination than in reality.” - Seneca
Thobani uses this quote as a personal mantra to reframe fear, anxiety, and self-doubt.
Advertising Campaign Mentioned
Sasol’s 2007 Springbok Ad Campaign: Thobani admires how this cinematic campaign used cultural symbolism and national pride to unite South Africans around a shared identity. It sparked his early understanding of representation, legacy, and the power of sport as a narrative tool.
Conclusion
Thobani Ndlovu’s story is a masterclass in leading from within. Whether designing buildings or building communities, he reminds us that intention, courage, and curiosity are the foundations of meaningful impact.
If you're creating anything (a platform, a product, or a personal path), this episode will leave you inspired to lead with purpose and build with heart.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Who is Thobani Ndlovu?
Thobani is a South African architect, TEDx curator, entrepreneur, and author of Leading Through the Mirror. He uses creativity, conversation, and community to drive transformation.
What makes TEDxDurban unique?
Thobani has turned TEDx Durban into more than an event; it’s a space for connection, conversation, and community-led impact.
What is the Incredible Machines Podcast?
The Incredible Machines Podcast is a thought leadership series produced by Tim Africa, featuring conversations with visionary entrepreneurs, leaders, and change-makers from across the continent.
What are the key themes discussed in Episode 22?
Episode 22 explores personal leadership, public speaking, platform building, and the power of architecture, sport, and storytelling to shape identity.
Where can I listen to the full episode with Thobani Ndlovu?
You can listen on all major platforms, including:
🎧 Spotify
🍎 Apple Podcasts
🌐 Tim Africa Podcast Hub
👣 Relevant Links
TEDx Durban Website: https://tedxdurban.org/
TEDx Durban Profile: https://www.ted.com/profiles/11198205
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thobanindlovu_/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThobaniNdlovuPage
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thobani-ndlovu-4a5563190/
Book: Leading Through the Mirror by Thobani Ndlovu
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